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Okay, so how about this situation. You're 16 from an extremely poor family and were raped by your abusive father and got pregnant as a result. You find out that your child will have very limited motor functions and extremely low intelligence and that raising this child will cost you thousands and thousands of dollars worth of medical bills. You try to find someone who is kind enough to take your child, but no one will accept your baby.
So your choices are to get an abortion for a fraction of the cost, or spend thousands of dollars that you don't have raising a child that you will probably hate because they will constantly remind you of what your father did, but whom you must spend huge amounts of time and money on in order to keep them alive.
And now consider this, you are in an abusive relationship and you get pregnant. Days after you finally succeed in breaking free from him. Good thing right? Well, now you don't want anything that reminds you of how he treated you, so you move, you get rid of everything, you start over with brand new everything. But you still have his child. So you birth the child, but you've grown attached to that child and don't want to give it up. While the baby is still young, you love that child. And yet, as it grows up, you begin to notice that it has the same eyes as it's father. And that it walks the same way. And that he does that thing with his hair that its father did. Etc. Now you're torn and you love the child, yet you hate the child because it reminds you of the father. So passive aggressive behavior is the result and you start being cruel to the child, yet the child doesn't understand. And after awhile the child begins to act more like the father and you start really remembering what life was like. But now you're more powerful than that which you hate. Either violence towards the child can result and they have a horrible life where they live scared and turn violent themselves or they can grow more powerful than the mother and turn into the father, and then they marry and the cycle starts over again.
You see, you talk about the emotional damage to the mother, but you don't speak about the damage to the child. Even if they're put up for adoption, that can still be a horrible traumatic experience for the child. And some people, even if they can barely afford to eat themselves, feel obligated to take care of a baby when it comes into their arms. Human emotions are highly complex and they are always involved. And sure, not every case is bad, but one of these children, as a result of their troubled childhood, could grow up to be the next uni-bomber, or a murderer who kills for no reason, or a sex offender that scars hundreds of children and women.
And I'd very much like to see where you got your 75% from
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1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
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This is where I got 75%, which turned out to be wrong, it's higher 93%
Fair enough, but you also have to consider living conditions.
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Its an interesting thing what you said about human emotions....one of the most preplexing is rationalization, we all get very good at it as we find it easier to justify ourselves as opposed to addressing real issues. In the end no matter what thw circumstance every child deserves a chance; it is true that our Nation's foster care system has it's flaws and yes socieity has made it hard for some to succeed but in the end no one can speak about lack of opportunity, poor living conditions, and emotional distress when the child never is able to experience life, when the innocent are snuffed out there isnt a question of what would happen because it cant; hows that rationalizing....
To add on to what my predacessor said. You are all assuming that the child will be hurt in these conditions. That is the worst possible scenerio, and who is to say that the child will not be strong enough to grow out of it. I know that the conditions you stated are very harsh but at the same time, you are assuming that the child will be a terrible person. We cannont blatantly assume something like that, we cannot assume the child will be a murder, bomber etc. I think what we need to understand is that we should not base a law on the minority, but rather the majority. If you can come back and prove to me that the majority of women have abortions b/c of rape, or b/c the child would have turned into a murderer (which u can't) then i will agree with the liberal side on this issue. However, this is never going to happen, so lets just all agree on letting the child grow up and decide for himself if he would have rather not been born, or lived a life with a poor mother.
well on one hand we have the people who have been raped and if they have a child BY that chances are the child WILL know it is NOT wanted. <--studies have shown
but on the other hand there are the people whose professions have to do with having sex and they're going to abuse that right to have an abortion but what if they change their profession and like get out of that they're going to want to eventually have children and they're not going to be able to because they had so many abortions and then they're going to regret it....so basically i say let them do what they want because in the end they are gunna get payback *karma* :)
I'm not sure if this point has been already raised...
What would happen as well if abortions were made illegal? It's very possible that people would still want to have them, and consiquensly try to illegaly abort. This might happen in unsanitary conditions, improper abortion procedure (not sure if that's the right word...), and could end up killing both the mother and child. Just because it would be illegal does not mean that the demand would stop.
Another question- how would this apply to animals as well? If abortions becom illegal for humans, would the same hold true for animals eventually? Because birthing situations can be deadly for some animals, and it can be harder to operate on them that humans...
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xenahorse wrote:I'm not sure if this point has been already raised...
What would happen as well if abortions were made illegal? It's very possible that people would still want to have them, and consiquensly try to illegaly abort. This might happen in unsanitary conditions, improper abortion procedure (not sure if that's the right word...), and could end up killing both the mother and child. Just because it would be illegal does not mean that the demand would stop.
Actually, I do believe that one town (or city perhaps) has actually passed a law making abortions illegal. I think it's in Maryland, but I'm not sure...
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no matter what the situation is, the baby deserves to live. we all fight for our freedom of speech, etc..., but a a baby can't. The baby can choose if he or she wants to live when it grows up. there are so many abortions because of society. first of all the girl should think she can get pregnant when she is about to give up her virginty and if she is raped, yes it is torture, but she shouldn't kill a life. now back to society. i don't think girls should be shunned, it should be the boys. they are the ones who rape the girls. and if the girl isn't raped the girl shouldn't be the only one shunned. boys should also be shunned when they abandon the girl in her time of need. the boys are only there to have fun and when they land into trouble, they jet.
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