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This turn of events is absolutely "devistating" for United States of America. Based on a pattern of behavior, the democrats have shown no back bone when dealing with terrorists. An the fact is, we could have had Osama Bin Laden when the Saudi Arabians had his location, but President Bill Clinton, would not accept it or take action. They have also proven themselves to not support the troops, many votes to go into war, but voted against funding them. If you do not believe me check www.senate.gov which is the official website of the senate, and they do not lie about voting data. The Democrats "sleep in the same bed as the ACLU" and would help them take over the nation. And for the record, the founder of the ACLU stated that the purpose of the ACLU is the founding of Communism as the official government of the United States, and that is still apparent today. At least the White House still has the main power and is under great leadersip of a republican President George W. Bush.:)

I would like to bring some other topics of interst up and get your opinion on them brewerjo. What do you think about the republican bills being passed that take away American Freedom's and Privacy such as the Patirot Act? We are no longer free from the Governments eye because of this law. They Government can always watch us. Also, what is your opinion on the new bill being passed that says that, basically, we do not have to follow the Genevea Convention and allows for the torturing of American Citizens? I also ask your opinion in the Exceuctive Branch over-riding the Judicial Branch in regards to the bill. Over the summer the Supereme Court said that we had to follow the Geneva Convention, now Bush is saying we don't.

As far as the war in Iraq goes, Bush has not yet presented a clear, effective plan for the country. The government for Iraq is not yet in place. The Iraqi people, as well as the American's, are getting tired of having troops over there. I know this information from my uncle who was in Iraq. He said while it is true that most of the people over there love the American's and look up to us, they still want us out and to be able to run their own government. The problem at hand is finding a good solution to withdrawl forces from Iraq and finding the time to withdrawl. Republicans want to stay longer, even after the job's done, while Democrats are wanting to withdrawl before the job is completley finished. In this aspect, their are pros and cons about both the Democratic and Republican parties.

Brewerjo, I ask you to please not consider Democrats to be Communist. Just because we are liberal, does not mean we are Communist. Democrats still believe in some governmetn control and Capatlism and being rewarded for success because that's what Capatlism is. Communist believe that everybody is equal and should be treated as such. They should receive equal pay for all jobs, no matter how hard or easy they are. The problem with Communisum is that people get gready and it ends up becomming a dictiatorship.

There is both good and bad about both parties. I tend to lean liberal so, I consider myself more deocratic. However, I say save America, vote indepedent.

Personally I think this is a bad thing. Now nothing is going to get done in the legislative branch because all they are going to want to do is attempt to impeach Bush. I'm neither Rebulican nor Democrat but I think what Bush was trying to do is a great thing, help a country in need of assistance. He just messed up a few things along the way. I can't see why so many people hate him, yeah he isn't our best president but we have certainly had worse(ahem Andrew Johnson and the Reconstruction) and people need to think of that. But since I'm not a member of either party I just have to wait until we can get an independent into office, or a woman, or a black man for that matter. See our government still has some kinks in it and the whole situation will eventually work itself out. So why fuss?

Why it is true that we have had worse President's then Bush, we have also had better. Bush has allowed broad enough terms used in bills (now laws) that have passed to allow the spying on and torture of American citizens for, basically, no reason with no legal repercussion what-so-ever.

Also, don't forget the size of the national debt: it has definatly grown during Bush's administration.

Personally, I rather think that the change is for the good. What politician was it that said there should be a revolution (no matter how small) every so often? Change in the politican system, regardless of how big or small it is, keeps the US from becoming a stagnent nation. And since the Democrats have been out of power for so long, I seierously doubt that they would spend all their focus on impeaching a president. Also, isn't the HOuse and Senate supposed to act as a system of checks and balances to limit the power of our president? If the H or S is compleatly in accord with the pres's opinion, isn't that a bad thing?

And I think What summed it up perfectly when he said what he did about voting as an independnent. Personally, although I'm often a liberal, I really don't care which party a politician belongs too: I'm more interested with their specific views on the issue at hand!

I am responding to all of you I guess at once. As you can tell, I am an avid republican and the way it will be. For the record I never called Liberals or Democrats communists. I called the ACLU and everything they officially believe in as communism which is irresputible. I believe that Bush has done a great job, and he has been able to rid the world of terrorists alittle bit at a time. Clinton can not say anything about that. Also where do you see that American citizens are being tortured. The Geniva convention does not apply to detainnees from Iraq and Afghanistan becuase they are not members of as offical enimies but hiding as civialians and therefore are not POW's. Anyone who is a citizen of the United States and helps in anyway a know terrorist or terrorist group is committing treason, and should not be interegated but immediately put to death, which is the only punishment that is allowed for treason. Any other questions I do not remember as being asked, but if I did not touch ones you requested, Please ask it again and I will answer them in an accurate manner.

Quote:I called the ACLU and everything they officially believe in as communism which is irresputible.
The ACLU are not communist. They are very liberal, true, but not Communist. I will expand on this if you so request.

Quote:I believe that Bush has done a great job, and he has been able to rid the world of terrorists alittle bit at a time. Clinton can not say anything about that.
Bush has attempted to rid the world of terrorist. I thank him for that. However, his war cannot be won. There were always be those who are considered terrorist. There will always be those who do not agree with people and take action against them.

As far as Iraq goes, I am not saying that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. Saddam was an evil man and needed to be removed from power. However, I believe that the Saddam situation should have been taken care of the first time around. Also, a better plan should have been developed for getting the country back on it's feet.

As far as Bin Laden goes, have we found him yet? No, we haven't. Our search for him has actually been decreased. I'm not saying that it's easy to find him, because it's not. But there is little doubt in my mind that he is re-organizing and plotting another attack.

Also, Clinton can say the same thing. Most of Clinton's work was covert-warfare. Also, remember Somalia? He tried there but the public wouldn't have it after the Battle of the Black Sea (Black Hawk Down mission).

Quote:Also where do you see that American citizens are being tortured. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2496005,00.html
I have heard of other accounts. While it is true that people make mistakes, most of these mistakes end up in a "We're sorry, we goofed. Now go on your way."

Quote:The Geniva convention does not apply to detainnees from Iraq and Afghanistan becuase they are not members of as offical enimies but hiding as civialians and therefore are not POW's.
While it is true that the those we are fighting right now are not members of the Geneva Convention, the convention sets a precedent for how we are supposed to act. Also, the Bush administration is simply putting a play on words to justify their actions. In reality, by ignoring the convention now, we are not only ignoring it now with this war, but allowing it to be ignored in future wars. We are allowing it to be ignored not only in our "favor" but also in our enemies. We are allowing the torture of our own people.

Please keep in mind, that Bush is also ignoring the Supreme Court here. This is putting our system of check and balances and our government as a whole at jeopardy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/29/AR200606...

Quote:Anyone who is a citizen of the United States and helps in anyway a know terrorist or terrorist group is committing treason, and should not be interegated but immediately put to death, which is the only punishment that is allowed for treason.
In today's society, treason and terrorsim are starting to be defend as simply disagreeing with the government. It the old "My way our the highway" mentality.

Other questions:
What do you think about the republican bills being passed that take away American Freedom's and Privacy such as the Patirot Act?

I also ask your opinion in the Exceuctive Branch over-riding the Judicial Branch in regards to the bill.

*takes a step back and absorbs the greatness of a good, intelligent debate*

In reference to the Patriot Act, it is not taking away our freedoms. The government promises to ensure our enalieable rights as mentioned in the constitution. THe right to privacy is not one of them. If the patriot act was in affect before September 11, 2001, the event may not have occured. It is for the good of the people that we have given the power to the government to protect us. The Geneva convention is a treaty that was signed by a series of nations. It is not a guide line for us to follow. THe convention and its regulations do not apply to nations not being involved in the convention nor those not holding to a nation. We are not required by law to be curtious to them. Also in reference to the ACLU, google the founder of the ACLU and then google his name, you will find the ACLU was established for communism. THey are fighting against our rights. I am a Christian and now it is ILLEGAL to pray in a public school or have anything present to represent Chrisitanity including a t-shirt./ THe supreme court rules that flag buring is a form of freedom of speech int he form of freedom of expression. If it is legal to burn flags publicilly than the principle applies to wearing Christian logos and what not as well as praying becuase they are all forms of Freedom of Speech.

Quote:In reference to the Patriot Act, it is not taking away our freedoms. The government promises to ensure our enalieable rights as mentioned in the constitution. THe right to privacy is not one of them. If the patriot act was in affect before September 11, 2001, the event may not have occured. It is for the good of the people that we have given the power to the government to protect us.
The constitution has been amended and the interpreted by the Supreme Court to include the Right to Privacy. For example:
Quote:Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965)[1], was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Constitution protected a right to privacy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
I have more information regarding this if you would like it.

Also, 9/11 would still have happened even if the Patriot Act was put in place before the tragedy. The government knew about the plot, but ignored it. It is important to mention, however, that at the time that the 9/11 plot was presented to the Bush Administration, there were bigger threats, such as a nuclear attack, reportedly in questioning.

Quote:The Geneva convention is a treaty that was signed by a series of nations. It is not a guide line for us to follow. THe convention and its regulations do not apply to nations not being involved in the convention nor those not holding to a nation. We are not required by law to be curtious to them.
While it is true that we are not required by the Convention to treat them a certain way, it is a precedent that has been set and one that the Supreme Court has stated should be upheld.

Quote:Also in reference to the ACLU, google the founder of the ACLU and then google his name, you will find the ACLU was established for communism.It may have been founded for communism, but that does not mean that it is a communist orginziation now, even though it may have some of the same views as communist.

Quote:THey are fighting against our rights. I am a Christian and now it is ILLEGAL to pray in a public school or have anything present to represent Chrisitanity including a t-shirt./ THe supreme court rules that flag buring is a form of freedom of speech int he form of freedom of expression. If it is legal to burn flags publicilly than the principle applies to wearing Christian logos and what not as well as praying becuase they are all forms of Freedom of Speech.
I too am a Christian. It is sad that it is now illegal/against the rules, depending on where your from, to wear Christian clothing in public schools. It is part of Freedom of Speech. The forced prayer I can understand. Religion shouldn't be forced. I believe that the Word of God should be encouraged by people, not forced.

I agree with your statements on forced prayer, becuase it should not be forced in any way, however, I do not believe it should be outlawed period. By the way in reference to privacy, that was ruled for the actions of people, contraception, not activities with terrorists. The Supreme Court has NO jurisdiction over foreign policy, their only purpose is to deal with Constitutional matters such as interpretation. The ACLU still holds communist perspectives by their actions and the stands they take such as through affirmitive action.