Gay Marrige

Sorry, it's been a long time since I've posted. I'll admit that I haven't given as much thought to my faith as I should've (and as it has clearly been shown).

Thank you for this discussion Zasch.

Any secular arguments done would be meaningless since everything loses value without God.

God Bless.

AP930;81427 wrote:Sorry, it's been a long time since I've posted. I'll admit that I haven't given as much thought to my faith as I should've (and as it has clearly been shown).

Thank you for this discussion Zasch.

Any secular arguments done would be meaningless since everything loses value without God.

God Bless.
how does everything lose value without god when you have no tangible evidence that god does exist? you have no proof that the human race was created in gods image especially considering how evil humans are compared to any other creature... everything doesnt lose value without god and proof of that is in the fact that you are capable of reading my words. I denounce your god and yet my words still have meaning and an impact, therefor your statement is false.

so no god bless, religion shouldnt play such a role in a persons life that they are incapable of seeing that which is right in front of them, evolution, or even another alternative that would still be opening your horizon of perspective

Religion should play a major role in a person's life...not all religions have a god in them...its by that religion that they should live by...if they actually believe in it and not act as some hypocrite...along the lines of gay marriage, religion should play a HUGE role...to me its wrong and in no way way, shape or form am I ever going to support it...what happened on california...was something that was bound to happen...but I have a question, where does the National government fall in for gay marriages? Is it up to the state to decide?

Quote:Originally posted by Marine Corps
so no god bless, religion shouldnt play such a role in a persons life that they are incapable of seeing that which is right in front of them, evolution, or even another alternative that would still be opening your horizon of perspective

I do agree to the fact about keeping you perspective open...but sometimes people can go past the point of naive and gullible...believing everything anyone is true...especially the tabloids you see in the line and your local supermarket.

What I don't believe the whole existence of evolution and what it stands for...but thats for another topic...

kenostyrk09;82079 wrote:Religion should play a major role in a person's life...not all religions have a god in them...its by that religion that they should live by...if they actually believe in it and not act as some hypocrite...along the lines of gay marriage, religion should play a HUGE role...to me its wrong and in no way way, shape or form am I ever going to support it...what happened on california...was something that was bound to happen...but I have a question, where does the National government fall in for gay marriages? Is it up to the state to decide?

I do agree to the fact about keeping you perspective open...but sometimes people can go past the point of naive and gullible...believing everything anyone is true...especially the tabloids you see in the line and your local supermarket.

What I don't believe the whole existence of evolution and what it stands for...but thats for another topic...
what part of evolution do you not believe then?

By the way, Kenstyrk09, religion should not be confused with state matters. It is anti-constitution, in the USA.

So my friend just sent me this e-mail. What do you all think?

1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, liposuction and air conditioning.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans...

I like the colour red. I don't know why, I just like it. I don't really fancy the colour green...it's never actually hurt me in any way, I simply don't like it. I didn't choose to like red and dislike green.

Homosexuals don't choose to be attracted to the same sex, they just are. It isn't going to encourage others to be gay. I can't encourage a green lover that red is better because they like green. Homosexuality is not inherited. Blonde hair is though...

Okay from now on, people with blonde hair are not allowed to get married. Because we don't want more blondies to be born; it will encourage more people to die their hair blonde. Also blonde people are dumb and mean. If your parents are blonde, you can't get married either because you might produce a blonde child. And then everyone will be blonde and the world will end.

That may have been a bit dramatic...but seriously. Blonde people are not dumb or mean. And them getting married does not negatively affect society. Neither does gay marriage. If you are against gay marriage because your religion looks down upon it, then that's fine. Don't allow gay marriage in your place of worship. But separation of church and state means your religious views have no say in a political argument.

There are no negative effects of a dude marrying another dude and a chick marrying another chick. Go to a planet where heterosexuals are victimized. All the narrow minds in the world will start to open.

wow, i just don't understand why people would try to ban gay marriage. i mean, ok, it might be part of your religion to be against gay marriage but you have no right to impose that on anyone else who may have very different beliefs. i think everyone deserves the same rights to be with the one they love no matter who that is.

Socially, I believe that everyone should be allowed to do what makes them happy and the government shouldn't impose any laws against couples because that is far too personal. If gays want to get married they should be allowed to because they love one another and no one should be telling them they are not allowed to love one another simply because they are of the same sex. Not letting them get married is basically telling them that they can not love one another because that's what, most, people do when they are in love: they get married. I believe that people are born gay and it is hard for them to be that way because it is always hard to be different, but they have to live with it and get through it because that's just the way they are and society shouldn't make that much more harder for them to live a normal life. People don't just choose to be gay.

Religiously, God loves us all and some may argue that being gay is a sin but in my opinion that is like saying that being different is a sin. Is it a sin to be born blind, deaf, armless, etc? I think not. Therefore, being gay is something different that we are not used to seeing but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it. Not to say that gays are disabled or born wrong but my point is that there is nothing wrong with being out of the norm, which seems to be heterosexual relationships. People simply need to mind their own business and let others live the life they want to live. As long as whomever is against it isn't doing it, than they shouldn't be trying to control other people's lives by opposing it.

I agree that homosexuality is perfectly fine. I mean saying a person cant get married to someone who is the same gender is unfair. Not all christian churches are against gay marriage either. I can truly say my church has nothing against it and i remember someone mentioned that a gay marriage has occurred within our church and was widely accepted throughout.

Wow that argument is not debatable....except that we can all say america is supposed to be a free country and yet we criticize everthing....so american argument invalid for being hypocritical.