Moving Towards Communism???

Deep question, but nah I highly doubt we will cause our own downfall.

I almost wish tht we do indeed move towards socialsim, since all in all, it seems like a pretty good thing to me. I know that a lot of people really dislike socialism and communism, but remember, there has never truley been a real communist society-all of them have turned into dictatorships (all that I know of, anyways; ex. Soviet Union, China, ect.)

I agree. Yes, we will eventually fall. Not just because of Bush (lol), but because we think we're the superpower of the world. Sure, we can nuke any country we want with a touch of a button, but we're getting pushed aside from countries like China, Japan, India, etc. Economically, we'll eventually fall. I don't think we'll ever become a 3rd World or anything like that, but....? Who knows?

xenahorse wrote:I almost wish tht we do indeed move towards socialsim, since all in all, it seems like a pretty good thing to me. I know that a lot of people really dislike socialism and communism, but remember, there has never truley been a real communist society-all of them have turned into dictatorships (all that I know of, anyways; ex. Soviet Union, China, ect.)

you and i think alike.

america is ....mmm...a good nation...yet very twisted.

we need more gov. regulations on economic issues... one that bothers me most is....our athletes.

we have police officers that pull over cars and they basically risk a bullet in their face everytime. we have athletes that step off the bus and hit a ball and get paid more than a million times then what a police officer makes.

firefighters, SWAT team, police officers, our armed forces, teachers (because they make doctors and they make lawyers) need to be better funded than people on TV that shoot balls and get millions of dollars.

it makes me sad, i've got so many friends that are firefighters and police officers. it's not fair.

Too true. I feel for you.

I agree with all of you, this country is becoming more crooked in every way, especially politics. Imagine if liberalists take control of the government. That will be a nightmare for America.

I think we probably will cause our own downfall, because all empires eventually fall and we haven't seriously pissed off anybody strong enough to take us (yet), so that leaves us to decay into oblivion on our own. But if anything, we're moving away from Communism with all the conservatives in office..

Socialism is really a great idea....but it won't work. Great on essays and FRQ's but it can't work. Say, we let Bill Gates distribute all of his money he has made and will continue to give it up everday to every single people. Add the charity, scholarships, the AIDS donations, and other money he gives (subtract that from his total amount). Calculate the amount of people (homeless are people too :p), and the birth rates (children being born per day). Divide the amount of Bill Gates has by the sum... What would each citizen get...eh...less than a dollar...

The world needs rich and poor people...there needs to be a clash between these economic gap in order for the economy to flow. Without it, well...$1 for everyone, everyday, uh...well $1's going to reduce through the week because of increase in populations... working at different (even dangerous) jobs, but who cares? It's fair...isn't it? What happens if the economy crashes...what do we do then...

Quote:I agree. Yes, we will eventually fall. Not just because of Bush (lol), but because we think we're the superpower of the world. Sure, we can nuke any country we want with a touch of a button, but we're getting pushed aside from countries like China, Japan, India, etc. Economically, we'll eventually fall. I don't think we'll ever become a 3rd World or anything like that, but....? Who knows?
Sigh, we are the world superpower, both economically and militarily. To prove the idea of socialism wirng, China is not communist anymore. The only way it could become sucessful was if it wasn't. Japan does very well economically, but it is more capitalist than the United States. India is also a capitalist nation.
Our economy is doing excellently. It is growing at huge rates,k unemployment is down, balance of trade is going up, etc.

Quote: almost wish tht we do indeed move towards socialsim, since all in all, it seems like a pretty good thing to me. I know that a lot of people really dislike socialism and communism, but remember, there has never truley been a real communist society-all of them have turned into dictatorships (all that I know of, anyways; ex. Soviet Union, China, ect.)

If you like communism/socialism so much why don't you go to a communist/socialist society? You have a variety of option, France, Canada, if you liek socialism and North Korea, Cuba if you like communism. All by the way aren't doing very well economically I might add. This is what I don't understand. Why do liberals have to try to change one of the only real capitalist nations that is left in the world?

And, you are incorrect. There have been other communist/socialist societies. Many sprang up in the 60's in the United States and they all failed. Communist nations sprang up in Vietnam and Cuba, and quickly following them was death and destruction. Also by just reading your post, we can determine that communism/socialism always ends up in an opressive dictatorship, which I might add has always happened. What you say proves that the idiology of communism/socialism is noble but it just doesn't work out. It failed in China, the Soviet Union, in Cambodia, etc. Today it is in North Korea and Cuba, and both nations are very poor and opressive. This will always happen in communism/socialism, poverty and death. One of the downsides in capitalism is that there is a period of depression every once in a while. But in communism, it is always a depression.

I'm going to have to side with xenahorse on this one about dictatorships.

And I feel for you too tallgeese. And here's where I start digressing...
Teachers are my main interest, although I do agree that all the public servants deserve much more than they are, but with teachers we have serious problems. Do you know, if you graduate you can take a three week training course and then be allowed to teach? This is how desperate we are for teachers. The problem is that these teachers don't know how to teach well. The solution is to raise the pay and the standards along with it. Once teaching becomes a career where you can live comfortably all month with kids and all of their needs, then maybe we could get some better quality teachers in our schools and then....

A BETTER EDUCATED GENERATION RUNNING THE COUNTRY!!!!

And finally to answer the original question:
I posted this somewhere else, but here's my view on Communism- Communism will never succeed as long as greed and jealousy (and maybe a few other emotions) are no longer a part of human nature.

Communism doesn't work because it breeds corruption. It's so easy to shave a little from everyone else and add it to yours.