Abortion rights

haha, I will truly look forward into joining the debate team then, but you can't laugh at me if I still continue to be easily-persuaded...that's one of my bad habits...it's the worst! :D haha...I don't know if my lil cali school has a debate team...we prolly do, but we just never anything of them...even though we should!!

Of course animals are life forms...I have to admit I do eat meat..it's good, but it does cause guilt to creep up on you for eating an innocent lil animal...

haha...g2g in a lil bit...hope to debate more later!

but btw, I still feel the same...a lil stubborn though right? haha...babies are still life forms and still seen as humans with personhoods to me...and yeah, i still feel that the cohabitation is benefitial that the couple can just move out if things go bad, but it's just so wrong and immoral to the unborn children that will suffer for their temporary doings!

There are already population caps in places like China, where you are only allowed 2 children.
I believe a woman has every right to an abortion.
It is the woman's choice.
I don't know if I would ever choose to have an abortion, but I would want it to by MY decision.
And no one should have to be informed of an abortion. The only ones who need to know are the woman who is getting it, and the doctor.
Making abortion illegal will only cause a rise in illegal and unsafe abortions, putting the lives of women in danger.

Bottom line, if you don't like abortion, don't have one. It's simple.

And to those of you who say there is adoption, do you know how many children there are in adoption centers? And do you know the rate of the adoptions?

If you allow abortions in ONE circumstance, and believe that it can be used if the woman was raped, then you can justify it in ALL cases.

If abortion is looked down upon by so many, then why is there such a lack of availability of contraceptive information.
A lot of girls I know are on the pill, but there are SO many options, wide varieties of contraceptives, but it is very low key. The school system has a very heavy abstinence plan, but that doesn't work very well.
New Mexico has a very high teen pregnancy rate. But we can't even get condoms on campus.
Hmmmmm.

hey, i i just debated about this topic in debate class.. the resolved was should abortion be restricted i was negative because i am pro-choice. i believe that abortion should be allowed for medical purposes. if you have a teenager ans you are aborting ther child purely b/c you don't want it or aren't ready then thats bullshit because you shouldn't have had sex.

Although I am strongly pro-choice, the viewpoint that you just shared really irks me. Abortion, or really any decision made on such a vast scale by the government, can not be a "well in this situation..." type of answer! There are too many "what ifs..." and too much controversy to do such a thing--if the decision is made about it to either be legal or not it has to be a concrete and absolute answer without any wishy-washy-ness that deals with how or what happened.

bebeswe3tz;63696 wrote:haha...babies are still life forms and still seen as humans with personhoods to me...and yeah, i still feel that the cohabitation is benefitial that the couple can just move out if things go bad, but it's just so wrong and immoral to the unborn children that will suffer for their temporary doings!
I don't know WHAT you're talking about. Dude, abortions are awesome! I don't know why anybody could be against it. What is all this business about womens' rights and whatnot? Women and rights--that's like an oxymoron! Oh dear, I might die from the ridiculousness of this debate if laughter doesn't steal my life away first. Where was I? Oh, yes, abortions is not about womens' rights whatsoever. I mean, who cares? Abortions is about the killing of a fetus. It's almost like an art by itself--the gentle shredding, the liquidation, and squish of the soft membrane. My friend thought of the idea of a fetus burger. I was like YESS!!! Think about the creativity slaughter holds! Abortions is the way to go! I'm tempted to go through a sex change JUST so I can start aborting babies. And I'm also just kidding. Did yall catch that?

I WAS JUST KIDDING.

I generally have to make that clear or everyone starts going crazy; people scream and take off all their clothes and rampage through campus. And the sarcasm is even less effective in real life. Don't talk about the joys of fetus-cide in front of your speech class. Not a good idea. :rolleyes:

But that's generally my approach to abortions. I've working to get killing babies widely accepted since my freshman year in high school, and I really don't see much of an argument for Pro-life. Adoption isn't an option. Just the lame old "Babies are God's beautiful creatures!" fallback moral juggernaut, and everybody and their grandma clings on for dear life. It's so wrong to kill globs of fat, but waiting for one of the 50,000 children dying in third-world countries daily is somehow perfectly acceptable. Oh, Please. Fetuses suck, period, unless they're in the fiftith trimester.

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simple: do you, or anyone, have the right to kill another human? what is the justification for that killing? my religious "beliefs" are mainly deist, and i am pro-life. pro-choice, sadly, today means pro-abortion. they are both different. pro-choice, in simple terms would be "i have the right to choose a salad or soup for luch" NOT "i have the right to destroy this human inside me or not." if you are pro-choice, your not making a choice. your intentions are to gain the right to kill another human being.

mattrodmusic;78602 wrote:simple: do you, or anyone, have the right to kill another human? what is the justification for that killing? my religious "beliefs" are mainly deist, and i am pro-life. pro-choice, sadly, today means pro-abortion. they are both different. pro-choice, in simple terms would be "i have the right to choose a salad or soup for luch" NOT "i have the right to destroy this human inside me or not." if you are pro-choice, your not making a choice. your killing another human being.

Only if you have an absurdly bad method of assigning moral rights.

This entire topic is (once again) based off of religion and how a person was raised (for the most part not saying entirely). Abortion should be the choice of the woman who is impregnated and no body else. The government has no right to limit the right of a woman to get an abortion. If a woman wants an abortion bad enough they'll do much less humane things to get rid of it instead of ruining the rest of their (and the childs' if they do choose to keep it) lives. This also raises the topic of stem cell research, do you think that is right? what if it were to save your life someday? what if it were to cure cancer? If the child isnt going to be cared for properly or is going to be treated bad then isnt it better to prevent it from living a terrible life than to make it be born and miserable? If your going to use the argument of ethics then see above, usually (again not always) when a child isn't wanted and the parent wants to get an abortion then it will be treated much more inhumanely than the abortion would be.

ok everyone is welcome to disagree and quote me and tell me im wrong all they want but this is what i think

i think that if you get drunk and have a one night stand that u consented to, that you shouldn't the "luxurey" of killing off your problem... you created that life... you take care of it... cant afford to take care of it... should have thought of that before you desided to be a hoe-tart and sleep around... at least the baby up for adoption instead of killing it before it really gets the chance to trully live life.

Now i think there should be some exceptions... like if the woman in question was raped, the pregnancy could harm her, or if the baby may be born with several complications. but even then there should be a lot of hurdles to jump through, to make sure that they really need it, and also in the process, they can make sure that this is what they want to do.

But babies don't have personhood.