Abortion rights

That's assuming fetus = baby.

I'm all for baby-killing too, though, don't get me wrong.

erikvarho wrote:That's assuming fetus = baby.

I'm all for baby-killing too, though, don't get me wrong.

what do you mean? that is exactly, what doctors say when they are about to abort a baby. it's just a fetus. what the doctors forget to inform is that the fetus is actually a baby and it actually feels pain. it feels more pain than a normal human being does. just imagine the pain the baby feels well it is getting murder.

chudiyaan wrote:what the doctors forget to inform is that the fetus is actually a baby and it actually feels pain. it feels more pain than a normal human being does. just imagine the pain the baby feels well it is getting murder.

Thanks for telling me, you said it on the internet so it must be true! I bolded the most informative part.

No one is "pro-abortion" - no one likes the idea. But it's the principle of the matter when it comes to the law-making level. I just don't think that the federal government, or a state government for that matter, has the right to poke its head so far into a person's private life that a woman can't decide what she wants to do with her own fetus because a group of outsiders believe she shouldn't have the right to do so.

Also, as xenahorse said, making abortions illegal would by no means stop the demand. Desperate women will return to the illegal and unsanitary abortion operations they had to go down backalleys for in the 1960s.

Also, most pregnancies are aborted early in the pregnancy - some are even ended before the zygot has grown into a fetus. The emphasis of pro-life supporters on partial-birth abortions represents an extremely small and especially gruesome percentage of abortions. This percentage of "partial-birth" abortions is also rare, as it typically produces emotional and physical health problems in the would-be mother.

In South Dakota, I believe, anti-abortion laws were recently passed prohibiting abortions, making no exception for the case of rape pregnancies. How is it fair that say, a young teen girl who has been raped has to prematurely deal with the consequences of a pregnancy gained through no fault of her own? And what about possible birth defects or health problems in the child? For example, what if you, as a pregnant mother, knew that your child would have Tay-Sachs disease and die at three, or be born with a damaged heart or brain and only live for a few months?

Also, the women who get abortions are not heartless monsters. People casually go into sex unprotected and think, "I'll/My partner will just have an abortion if I/they get pregnant." Women who have gotten abortions should not be treated as criminals -they've lost something too, but they made a decision on how their lives will go, and I don't think that the right over their lives should be taken from them.

Everybody already really explained what I wanted to say lol, but basically to me its up to the woman. If she wants an abortion, then let her get one. It isnt a murder because the baby isnt really alive yet. It isnt walking around or even crawling. It isnt a murder because it isnt off of mother support. It's part of the mother. I'm pro-choice

It depends on the situation... if you have sex with your boyfriend/girlfriend and the girl gets pregnant... that's the couple's fault, not the baby's. If you kill that baby inside, it's murder - i don't care how long it takes for the baby to actually be considered "a baby". On the other hand, if you get raped or something and pregnant from that, that's not your fault, putting the decision in your hands (try the morning after pill). Also, if you have a medical problem that can't take care of that baby, sometimes that'll make abortion necessary. Abortion is touchy... it's hard to say that killing something is ok sometimes, but not ok in others. It just... depends.

i think its a touchy subject too. i mean, if the mother's life is at risk then she should be able to abort the baby to save her own. but i agree with walk_on_sunshine if a couple willingly has sex and they get pregnant then thats their fault, they should have to deal with the consequences. meaning taking care of that baby. at the least i think people should have the baby and give it up for adoption. then it has a chance at life in a place where its wanted, can be loved and has a chance to experience life.

crazy_brunette wrote:...if a couple willingly has sex and they get pregnant then thats their fault, they should have to deal with the consequences. meaning taking care of that baby. at the least i think people should have the baby and give it up for adoption. then it has a chance at life in a place where its wanted, can be loved and has a chance to experience life.

Ideally, this IS waht should happen, and I agree that if nothing financially, socially or personally stops said couple from responsibility, that they should not just have an abortion because it's inconvinent. But there is the issue already that the adoption system is already overflowing with 'unwanted mistakes'. And also, not all of the people in adoption and child care are wonderfull people. Few of them are, and a good percentage of adopted kids get abused (I know someone that this happend to, and by those that should have looked out for her). So the adoption system is not the reason to stop legalizing abortions, it has enough problems as is.

that is true, i guess i never thought of that. but at least that baby might have a chance to live.

True, it might have a chance to live, but what about the quality of life that it might live in? This is the REAL problem, not really abortion, since less people are able and willing to adopt..I could go on like this for a while. Sorry.