Gay Marriage?

Quote: It is nothing more than a pathetic escape from reality, and has absolutely no other use, aside from medicinal purposes.

I take it you don't have the necessary knowledge on drugs and their components to carry an intelligent debate on them.

Quote:How can you compare between abortion-polygamy to alchohol-marijuana? For example, you can be in love with more than one woman. (although if you are, you have serious issues.) There is no justification for legalizing marijuana.
I compare it because they are comparable?!? Polygamy is illegal, marihuana is illegal. Alcohol is legal, abortion is legal (both under certain conditions)

okay, i'm rpetty sure once they (referring to a previous quote on gays) were given the right to marry, they'd respect it a lot more than any couple has in the past. I just don't understand how we can make a joke out of marriage like that, and then say that couples who have been fighting to be recognized under law for the rest of their LIVES can't have that same exact right.

The main issue here is that it is not known whether being gay is genetic or not. This is under research, and it is highly plausible that homosexuality is indeed genetic.

If so, then there's nothing actually wrong with the person, it's just how their DNA is.

If it's choice, then it's a different discussion.

Just a friendly reminder to keep this a clean debate.

link9965 wrote:As for seperation of church and state IT DOES NOT EXIST!!!

Ummm....as far as I know, being against an issue like this isn't illegal. Actually, it is legal....although I'd give up the right to group against an issue like this to outlaw groups like the KKK....

I agree with you. But there is sometihng ironic about what you said.

Separation of Church and State is nowhere in the constitution or its amendments. The idea orginated from a court case.

The ironic part about this is that the judge was a member of the KKK.

This nation is not a theocracy.
George Washington himself said that government and religion had no place together.
If spirituality is incorporated into law, all religions should be, not just the majority ruled denomination.
This is a free country, and what many Christians do not realize, is that not everyone holds the same belief systems as they do. I'm Buddhist, and I believe that gays should be allowed to marry, however, my opinion rarely counts because the majority of the voters in American are Conservative Christians.
Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, as the majority of America is uninformed, unintelligent, and only vote for their best interest, ignoring the needs and wants of other citizens.
But I shall admit that what I stated above is extremely biased, and I apologize.
-Sara(h) Mahala

My message was edited by a moderator because I cannot refrain from cursing in the forums.

UnforseenEvents wrote:the majority of America is uninformed, unintelligent, and only vote for their best interest, ignoring the needs and wants of other citizens.

If everyone voted for their self interest then a majority of the people are happy and better off and thet's really the best we can do. Why should we take other people into consideration if our vote helps them and not us.

Quote:I'm Buddhist, and I believe that gays should be allowed to marry
Quote:Get your bloody morals out of my laws.
Everyone has different morals than you do
Really? So if you believe that morals have no place in the law, why should we incorporate your morals then?

UnforseenEvents wrote:Message removed for inappropiateness

Well from your post you show that your biased as well. You're biased on the other side, but your still biased.

UnforseenEvents, this is a reminder that cursing is not allowed in the forums, much less cursing at another member of the forums.

If you do so again you will be banned.

Why do you say that our laws were made based on Christianity. Our laws were made based on common sense human actions. Tell me, would you like to be silenced while speaking? tell me, would you like to be hunted down because you chose a simple belief that the ruler does not like? tell me again would u like to be impaled with a lance through your calf then your achilles cut so that it strings back into your knee, then have your eyes raked out because you stole something? o and would u like something stolen from you? i do not see any religion involved in these amendments. if you have any laws created by our founders you might wanna tell me and educate me, but i cannot think of anything off my head right now. sorry one more thing, what if someone killed your family. it's simple human sense that we do not want certain harmful and wrong things. i myself am christian and personally, i think human rights come first. why? you, me, and billions of other peopel live in this world. and this world we will live in with our body. one argument that anti gay marriage person put up was that if gay marriages are allowed, we would have to allow family marriages and polygomy. and i think armando pointed that out, that is just liek saying "hey alcohol is legal, so shoudl other mind controlling substances such as weed and heroin" i think it was you Day, you are side railing a bit too much there. by the way im sorry i dont have these in bullets lol. continuing with the topic of religion, guess what, it was Christianity that said that all men are equal and guess what we had slavery. It was Christianity that said that you cannot eat shrimp wear certain fabric and all those Old Testament Rules, and look they changed in the New Testament due to the coming of Christ (and pointing out change is obviously present, even in religion). It was Christianity that started the Holy Crusade, which selfishly purged the infidels. And one more although there are much more, it was due to Christianity that put forth bondage among the settlers of this country. now tell me, that your *holy christian way is the way and the only way to go* should be applied onto this country where it is the melting pot. oh and yes, by the way, the Bible was translated numerous times before we have what we have now. It could have gone through many different hands and people with such narrow thoughts. couple more points then i'll end.

As Christians why must you care if gay people marry? it's not like you will be forced to watch them be married. what is the difference and should u notice gay married couples walking around your street? will you even notice that they're married? and oh, i thought the God i knew was generous and forgiving. And as Christians we shouldn't oppress anyone. what happen to love they neighbor and the Golden Rule? you also say that marriage is already becoming a disgrace. look at your religion. look at Christianity, name me every branch of Christianity and i swear you will find a lot more than you think there are. don't you think that is disgracing religion itself yet we let other people make churches about it? look, we have the baptists, the catholics, the lutherans, the non-denominational, the Mormons (which by the way are the most uniformed Christian religion out there), and there are so much more. Tell me did anyone tell your church that you cannot build your church on that land because if you do you will further disgrace CHristianity. no. why be non christian like to other fellow human beings (who are supposed to be your brothers and sisters).