Gay Marriage?

Quote:9)About human-dog marriages: Hey, at least they can't reproduce right?

As sick as it may sound, you can ;)

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6)About separation of church and state: Yes, this does seem to be a forgotten concept. Example: prayer in schools. I'll just make one last point on this and then leave it. This is for What:

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" which is generally interpreted as separation of church and state.

I was simply quoting my government teacher, I have not done any research on the matter.

As far as your quote "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" this is saying exactly what it says, Congerss cannot make a law saying you cannot practice your religion of choice nor can it make a law against a establishment, such as a church.

Technically, this means that they cannot make a law for or agianst religion.

My opinion on the issue of marrige rights given to homosexuals, is that once this decline in the historical standards of marrige is obtained, we as Americans will have to deal with it's snow-ball effects.

For example, how long do you suppose it will be, once same-sex marriage is a reality, before brothers want to marry sisters?
How long do you suppose it will be before sisters want to marry sisters? How long do you suppose it will be before brothers want to marry brothers?

How many same-sex marriage advocates want to go down that road?

Are you still with me?

If incestuous marriages don't scare you off, how about marriages involving more than two people? What possible reason could we find for "discriminating" against threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes, etc.?

How many of you remember when a fellow in Great Britain wanted to marry his dog? How could we possibly "discriminate" against an idea like that?

The truth is that most of us do believe in discrimination. In fact, we discriminate every day when we make choices. I'm not sure you can live without discriminating – between good food and bad, between safe conduct and unsafe conduct, etc.

People who are homosexuals, transsexuals, transgendered people, intersexuals, lesbians and metrosexuals are characterized in those ways because of their conduct, their behavior, their choices.

Those folks have exactly the same rights as heterosexuals. They can marry one member of the opposite sex. No one forces them to do so. But they have that right.

This system has worked pretty well for the last 6,000 years. We tamper with it at great peril to our society.

What are your thoughts?

while i aslo do not agree with it, it should be allowd the only thing is i don't like how the true gay people are you kno walk and talk like the opposite sex thats just weird

Splintered_Light wrote: For example, how long do you suppose it will be, once same-sex marriage is a reality, before brothers want to marry sisters?
How long do you suppose it will be before sisters want to marry sisters? How long do you suppose it will be before brothers want to marry brothers?

If this does happen, which is highly unlikely, it won't last for very long. If two people from the same gene pool reproduce, then the resulting child will most likely get most of the bad genes. Results of this could be mental incapabilities, physical deformations, increased rate in genetic diseases, etc. This is why the tradition of pure-royal blood ended in Europe. Marry too many cousins and you get some strange genetic effects.

nyy wrote:Think about it this way, gay marriage used to be unheard of and considered radical and just plain crazy. Now it has a good chance of being legalized nation wide.

Today adult-child marriage is considered wrong and crazy, but now that marriage is no longer restricted to sex, why should it be restricted to age? If 2 men can marry, why shouldn't a man and a boy be able to marry? Why shouldnt a woman and her dog be able to marry?

^er..that's kind of taking it a bit far...a DOG does not EQUAL TO A PERSON...to some people maybe..but okay...when someone falls in love with another person, why should they be denied the right to marry?

In addition, this is what i feel. britney spears was allowed a 3 or 4 hour "JOKE" marriage (i dont' really remember the length of time), while homosexual couples often times stay decades long together. How would it feel to watch people joke around with "marriage" and at the same time, the people involved in those "joke marriages" were open to HUNDREDS of rights DENIED to homosexuals. Where is the equality in that? I fail to comprehend the obvious ignorance of many officials when it comes to this issue. it's rather sad that most of this is based on monotheistic religions (mainly christianity) while i have nothing against any religion, i feel that a separation between church and state is EXTREMELY important in today's world.

also, why should gay couples not be given the recognition of the title of a MARRIED couple?? sure they'd get the rights, but still, we're "making them different" a separation of groups, which is unfair and unconstitutional.

HOWEVER, while i feel we should allow gay marriage. we must also protect the rights of the church, to deny the ceremony of marriage. if we were to FORCE churches to marry a couple, then we would be infringing on the rights of the church. Instead, there should be a compromise of giving the title and ceremony to the couple, but there should be no force upon the church to marry a couple.

I think gay marraige should be legal. I mean we are the country of freedom. And yet we are trying to tell people who they can and cannot love. And as far as the church thing. what the heck? There is supposed to be a seperation of church and state and the last time I checked marriage liscenses were issued by the state. And if 2 atheist are allowed to get married (because being atheist is looked down uponand against the bible) then why shouldnt 2 men be allowed to marry. Love doesnt disciminate. So why should marriage. Gay people deserve every right that straight people do and they shouldnt be looked down upon because of who the love. Most gay couple that I know, have been together a long time and had to fight a lot of people in order to stay together, dont you think that would mean that their relationships will last longer than someone who hasnt had to fight for it at all? I mean people can get married in 24 hours, people take marriage for granted. If they had to fight for it, dont you think they would try that much harder to make it work.

As far a gay marraige goes I oppose it.. Marraige is a religiously fueled institution and in that religion clearly between a man and a woman. The government has to except and deal with such a wildly popular and common thing so they make alowances to 'married' couples with children. The tax breaks only apply if your married with kids.

However I am not opposed to same sex civil unions which would allow for spousal rights and marriage tax breaks. It does anger me howerver to have someones deviant lifestyle thrown in my face. If you want to march down the road of sexuality pertaining to rights a little further consider the ideas of Bi sexual rights... What about polygamy?

compromise only sucks couse no one gets what they want...

To say that it is a religiously fueled institution leads yet again to the conspiracy theory, also just a point...you CANNOT base marriage upon ONE religion. While christianity may define it as a union between a man and a woman, other religions may accept gay marraige more than christianity. And in addition, to say that it is a "deviant lifestyle" (no offense) kind of depresses me..just to see how close-minded the American culture sometimes can be towards new ideas and "lifestyles"
A question of mine would be: why can't gay couples be legally married? britney spears, among many other celebrities, certainly made a joke of marriage...how in WHAT WAY can we deny that SAME right to gay couples who have been living together for over 20 years?